‘Ho nooo, I finished my C41 Bleach… Wait a minute… I have tons of E6 Bleach…’ Thus, a new types of color processing are born! Get to know all of them right here, right now!
The 3 Types of Hybrid Processing
How? By replacing sequentially one of the usual C41 steps by an E6 step.
Before starting the experiment I compared the composition of C41 and E6 chemistries and noticed some similarities. I however have no idea what I’m talking about, since I’m not a chemist. But still, the Bleach and Fixer look pretty much the same, no? Anyway, I always wanted to try this. And there was no one to stop me.
Hybrid process N°1 – HPro1
Recipe: Replace the C41 Bleach by E6 Bleach
Appearance: Stronger saturation than usual XPro. Results vary according to the emulsion: Velvia 100 and 100f have a purple/red tone, Velvia 50 and Provia 100 are green/turquoise, Kodak EPP100 shows the usual green/yellow tone. The negative emulsion tested (Ferrania Solaris FG+100) turned out nice, looking like a cross-processed slide.
Results:
Holga 120 GN + Holga Splitzer / Fuji Velvia 100f:
Holga WPC / Fuji Velvia 100:
Yashica-C / Fuji Velvia 50:
Holga 120 GN / Fuji Provia 100f:
Rolleimatic / Kodak EPP100:
Rolleimatic / Kodak EPX64:
Rolleimatic / Ferrania Solaris FG+100:
Hybrid process N°2 – HPro2
Recipe: Replace the C41 Bleach and Fixer by E6 Bleach and Fixer
Appearance: Velvia 100 and 100f have again a purple/red tone; contrast and saturation are ridiculously intense. Agfa RSX50 has a deep blue tone and clear whites. Again, the negative emulsion looks like a cross-processed slide, but even better than the Ferrania… This could be due to the emulsion though (Kodak Portra 160NC).
Results:
Rolleimatic / Fuji Velvia 100f:
Horizon Perfekt / Fuji Velvia 100f:
Holga WPC / Fuji Velvia 100:
Holga WPC / Agfa RSX 50:
Holga 120 GN / Kodak Portra 160NC:
Hybrid process N°3 – HPro3
Recipe: Only E6 Chemistries, but without the Reversal bath and Pre-Bleach steps.
Appearance: A big surprise. I was expecting to obtain negative films (because of the absence of Reversal Bath), but they turned out as slides of a very dense (and long to scan) green. The negative film drove me nuts, both scanned as negative or positive and reminded me of a previous experiment involving Fuji Reala and expired Reversal Bath.
Results:
Rolleimatic / Kodak E100GX:
Holga 120 GN + Holga Macro Focusing Frame / Kodak EPP100:
Holga WPC / Fuji Provia 100f:
Holga WPC / Kodak EPX64:
Holga WPC / Kodak Portra 160NC (scanned as positive):
Holga WPC / Kodak Portra 160NC (scanned as negative):
Conclusion
As with any cross-processed film, scanning was sometimes tricky, with great variations depending on the scanning area and the resulting scanner’s reactions.
And last but not least these were my first trials with my new Rolleimatic, sold for a very VERY friendly price by mon ami Vicuna. Encore merci, je l’adore!
So, for those enjoying homemade XPro, just try the E6 Bleach replacement (HPro1). You won’t regret it!
65 comments
emilios
Μπράβο ρε μαλακα!!
pepper-b
Great tip!!! I wish I had a chemical factory...
cyan-shine
OMG! OMG! OMG! You rock! I can't say it frequently enough!
eatcpcks
really great tip congrats!
adi_totp
I'm speechless broo.. can you process my films? ;p hahaha
keeklo
Man, this is a Mother of an article! Great!
mgf
awesome
cinzinc
awesomeness! wna process my films?hehe
vicuna
That's again a fantastic tipster by our processing master Dr. Stouf (he he ;) And I'm happy to see your first Rolleimatic pictures and that you like this camera! I knew it! ;)))
leendabob
woooooowwwweeeeeeeeeeeeee~ you da cool dude mannn
woosang
Ooo i adore the colours of experiment 1 & 2 such lovely purples and turquoise
rav_bunneh
Now if only we could talk every lab on the planet into doing this!
tveden
Well to me it looks like you just can't get rid of the good results no matter how much you twist it. I envy the sharpness in your results, its fantastic.
troch
I have so got to start color processing. Have already ordered chemistry, but there is apparently some hold up. Stouf, you are one mad scientist!
stouf
Thank you so much everyone ! If I had time I would process all of your films !!! And thanks again @vicuna for the rolleiBEAUTYmatic : ))) Thanks to all of you my friends ! You are so nice...
phil2k90
I love the results from the Portra film at the very end - it's just mad! I wonder if I could process CN film with my Tetenal 3-bath E6 chemistries..? Worth a try methinks!
azurblue
OMG Stouf stroke again !
Tu es le magicien qui ose ! Et tu as raison car le résultat est stupéfiant !
Tu es vraiment doué car mon photographe me dit que le développement couleur maison, ça n'est vraiment pas de la tarte !
Congrats ! You're THE MASTER !
wil6ka
la revolucion, el presidente de emulsion Stouf!
disdis
I'm still trying to soak this up! The results are awesome. I should start buying the chemistries from a place I know in Madrid.
jeabzz
waaaah bravo stouf, super boulot! et...c'est possible de t'envoyer des peloches à developper? ;D (en hpro1 s'il te plait...:D)
azzzy
brilliant!
renaishashin
This is too awesome! I wish I can self develop at home!!! :DDD
rater
Bravo! Le HPro3 gives some awesome colors!
goldie
My goodness - what a piece of work and information and most of all, amazing pics. Hats off for the Mr. Stouf
dogma
WoW mate, this experiment was really interesting! great article, pictures and colors ;) Thanks for sharing!
anarchy
Holy cow!! Awesome experiments and truly inspiring :-) Excellent work, professor! You give these dudes a run for their money ;-) http://nobelprize.or(…)eates/2010/
stouf
@phil2k90 : I had different results with reversed x-pro, but I think this particular result is due to the absence of reversal bath... Anyway, keep me informed of your results : )
@azurblue : Merci ma chère, et tu as raison il faut oser, parce que c'est vraiment plus simple que certains le disent... Mais merci ça fait toujours plaisir d'avoir d'aussi élogieux commentaires venant de toi... : )
@wil6ka : Danke Herr Willie !
@anarchy : Ahaha that's a bit much 8D...
@all : Your comments are such a great reward for my efforts ! Thank you so much, coming from great lomographers like all of you it's really an honour !
lomosexual_manboy
Really awesome man. I wish I was able to do some of this experimenting. Lots of really great shots with surprisingly really great color results. Keep up the good work.
-a-l-b-e-r-t-o-
bravissimo
naxoman77
Totally awesome!! Continue making your wonderful home-made processes!
pulex
excellent!!! youre the man!! gotta grab some E-6 chemicals!
guiguiste
toujours plus loin, toujours plus haut, toujours plus Stouf!
kylewis
Incredible! genius Stouf and also very timely as I was told today my local lab is closing, now I feel there is a little bit of inspiration and hope to be had at home!
panelomo
dude, i'm still torn between a plastic and stainles steel developing tank -and here you are talking about ethylenediaminetetraaceticacid acid and sesquisulphate monohydrate. just like your photos - you are SHARP, mate! :)
milkie
Epou-Stouf-lant! Great!
hotdustyroads
inventive and beautiful A+
zoe191
Amazing
champi
A W E S O M E ! ! ! !
eskimofriend
you're a genius!!!! might be the most amazing colors I've ever seen from film... wow!
you're doc process for sure!
carousel-fish
That's so cool :D
pomps
wow! amazing photos! would you like to process mine photos :)
the colors are incredible!
izananizan
notalux
you're talk like a living legend bro.... the article is awesome and so inspiring everyone. your gallery have tons of stunt photos.
stouf
Thank you so much friends... Your comments are such a reward ! : )
clownshoes
Just the info I needed
lighthouseblues
Most increadible inspiration!! THANKS a lot!!!
ihave2pillows
Where's the LOVE button?! Where's the LOVE button?!!!
stouf
@clownshoes @lighthouseblues @ihave2pillows I'm honored ! : )
ck_berlin
My first HPro 2 album: http://www.lomograph(…)ith-friends
stouf
@ck_berlin WOOOOO !!! Thank you so much I feel so proud you've tested it ! Surprisingly different results, fascinating! It probably has to do with our scanning methods... Or quantum mechanics : )
ck_berlin
I have to thank you for this great article and the time, energy and money you spend for it.
My Setup was the following: Jobo CPE2 processor , Digibase C41 chemestry (http://www.macodirec(…)93e7defc1d1) and expired E6 bleach/fix from Tetenal.
5 min prewash (warm water)
3:15 min C41 developer
1 min selfmade stopbath (8 gramm citric acid / 500 ml water)
6 min E6 bleach
4 min E6 fix (These times I've taken from the Tetenal manual)
washing (warm water / Ilford method)
1:20 min E6 Stabilizer
My scanning setup I posted in a comment here: http://www.lomograph(…)-processing
Hope It helps.
stouf
@ck_berlin Fantastic! Thanks for all these details. It's really interesting to document how processing and scanning are affecting results. I'm particularly curious about your prewash. I Do it only for B&W films... How's the water coming out of the tank ? Clear? Pink? Yellow? I'm intrigued... : )
ck_berlin
Every slide film makes other "watercolors". There are purple, pink, yellow, green, orange or red colors possible and also mixed tones if you mix different films. C41 films has always clear water. I think the prewash helps to extend the lifetime of the developer. With 500ml Tetenal developer I develope approx 15 films. Tetenal recommends the prewash in the manual. In any case, it is not harmful.
stouf
@ck_berlin Mmm I see. I never re-use my developer, only my bleach. I usually re-use E6 bleach that has been used in E6 process, to do HPro... Ho, and I do rotary process, with less chemistry than inversion process...
sirio174
very interesting!
mikahsupageek
@stouf Voilà, j'ai enfin pris le temps de lire et d'analyser cet article sur toute sa longueur !!! Et je suis complètement bluffé, j'ai pu voir les résultats obtenus par @ck_berlin qui sont véritablement fantastiques !!! Et maintenant que je fais du développement, je vais voir si je ne pourrais pas me lancer dans une telle aventure aussi !!! Bravo à toi stouf et à ck_berlin pour des résultats précédemment dis épou-STOUF-lants !!! :D
stouf
@mikahsupageek Merci cher ami, je suis vraiment touché! Et tiens moi au courant ! @ck_berlin I know every time you upload HPro2 shots I get likes on this article... Thank you so much for being such a honorable ambassador of this post : )
ayer
I just bought a bunch of Portra160 film. Gonna try the 3rd process!
stouf
@ayer Yey! Please let me know how it went!!! Thank you!
analogdisplay
This looks like magic to me...
stouf
@analogdisplay : ) ...And it feels like doing magic, but it's as easy as cooking : ) Thanks though...
ropi
ohh!! I've been looking for those weight % a lot !!! I'm a chemical engineering student, and I'm trying to develop new chemicals, and this is so helpful! thanks for sharing!
stouf
@ropi Ah! This is a dream to me... Please let me know how your experiments go I'm extremely interested! : )
aexel
I did it! HPro2...I love it!:-)
Thank you @stouf!
stouf
@aexel Ah! I wanna see I wanna see I wanna see ! : )